The first Civic was equipped with a manually changed hydraulically engaged two-speed transmission with a torque converter. Perhaps there is some CAFE calculus going on there, but how many Odyssey, Pilot, TLX, MDX owners do they feel they can risk alienating? The unit was built on a parallel-shaft structure similar to the previous Honda AT, which has high torque transmission efficiency. It’s either a CVT or it’s not.I’ve met an engineer working for ZF..not the transmission division but knows all about it. All 3 were problematic (not transmissions)It’s much more than that. ?Just to match the rest of the misinformation within the article, evidently.Exactly my feeling John Taurus. That is found with the LX, Ex, EX-L Pilot. Perhaps more than any other, but its not like they purposely used what they knew to be unsafe products. If you go Touring or Elite big mistake. I manage an all-makes shop, and buying anything else is setting yourself up to pay an idiot tax. Honda’s transmission issues can be traced all the way to the grenades they used in the ’78 Accord on forward. I’m left flummoxed on why anyone would use the ZF9 at this point, especially after the complete disaster it turned out to be for FCA.Does this answer the question as to why the Ridgeline gets only the 6 speed?Is that 6 speed good? Acura changed over the tranny fluid formula during that time, supposedly to fix the driveablity problems… My radiator split at 80k miles in commuter traffic, squirting the ATF all over the road, so at 166k I’m on my third set of ATF.. They come with the ZF 9So much for Acura’s “Precision crafted performance”This is what you get for killing all your manuals, Acura!Time to restore your honor by doing the right thing.Holy frijoles, 9 speeds? and achieved a torque multiplication of c2.7 to 1. In 2004, Honda finally admitted to the problem with a 600,000 vehicle recall 4. This torque converter was nominally about 7in. Honda was the only manufacturer to silence their own engineers over the performance of the airbags all the way back in 2004 when they said, “hey, we’ve got a serious problem.”Honda is also the only manufacturer to tell Takata, “hey, change that test data you ran for us to show that they don’t explode quite so much.”Despite knowing the airbags were a major problem, Honda continued to use Takata, and never even took steps to approach another manufacturer to step in quietly.I will give no defense for the glass transmissions in the Chrysler (pre-FCA-era) minivans – or for any minivan for that matter. Some things never change.It is like they are in collusion with Chrysler or something!Brand loyalty to Honda or Toyota on the basis of reliability is a foolish thing in 2017.Our daughter’s Hyundai Elantra has been trouble-free for nearly 7 years and counting. Yes, some are worse than others, but there is no logical reason to assume a Chrysler will be more reliable than a Honda, especially when they source their trans from the same supplier. long and achieved a torque multiplication of over 2.2 to 1. Also in my area, a lot of rust issues that make them look and sound like hooptie rides. People shouldn’t be paying to be beta testers.So why does the article have a picture of the RDX, which has the old 6AT? Its not like older Chrysler minivans were any better than Hondas in that regard. My 08 MDX had the torque converter replaced at 68k miles, warranty, when the rpms would go up and down when climbing hills. The 6 speed is a Honda developed transmission.Great tranny, no issues. My sister has a 2003 Pilot and its doing just fine at 150k miles. Most of Honda's automatic transmissions are unusual in that they do not use planetary gears like nearly all other makers, however Honda has recently introduced (2017) an all-new, in-house designed 10-speed automatic that uses planetary gears.

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