If the 357 145g JHP will kill deer-sized game out to 100 yards, what more do I need.
Kinda spoils the handiness a bit. I already have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting, plinking, and defense. And those bullets make BIG holes. )The beauty of .44 Magnum is that your shot will ALWAYS be a passthrough shot on white-tailed deer when you shoot 240 grain softpoints. I don’t have a 44 right now, but I sure wouldn’t walk away if the price was right. The rifle is a Miroku built Winchester. Now, we have jacketed hollow points which are sensitive to velocity. Not bad.
125-grain JHPs: “…the revolver got … 537 lb-ft. The first of the ‘Magnum’ pistol cartridges, it was a big hit. And sighted thus, 125 grain 38+Ps are minute of saucer out to 50 yards.The 30-30 is a great round but there is way more utility in a 357 for the average Joe.the microgroove spins lead, but the twist rates were slow for heavy cast.I could drive jacketed 140s up to near 2000,fps with no problem. I love all my modern guns but this thing is probably one of my top 3 range toys I own. Ive killed numerous large western Pa deer, one almost 300lbs and lots of hogs with .357 pistols and rifles. You get reliable feeding of rimmed cartridges at the expense of capacity unless you are willing to accept a fat mid section like a Johnson rifle. The comparison is that pretty much all that were shot with a .357 rifle all dropped where they were hit. Revolver would be either a S&W K or N Frame. Too fast and they break up. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I’m kinda watching to see how this 350 legend business pans out. Pretty much defeats the goal of shared ammunition.
May get myself an upper assembly in that caliber if it appears to make the cut. I could opt for a .44 rilfe, with my .357 revolver, but that isn’t a pair. Best to check some reference manuals using your specific gun/bullet data.I have a variety available, the heaviest are a 250 gr. Properly loaded it can do quite well out of a carbine. The Buffalo Bore loads have impressive ballistics, but accuracy and consistency lack for a hunting round especially when taking shots out to 150 yards with pistol or a rifle. This is of course due to the 5.56 bullet moving at a much faster speed than the 30 carbine slugs. The carbine got…1153 lb-ft, for a…98 percent boost in energy.”A 98% improvement?
lt was short range , but it worked flawlessly,the largest was 300 lbs.Remington’s 125 gr SJSP in a Henry Big Boy Steel .357 is a potent combination. Thinking about it though, popularity wasn’t on my list of criteria when I bought the Contender…A friend of mine converted a Winchester Trapper and an H&R Handy Rifle to 357 max.The H&R was stunningly accurate and he ended up using it for hunting.He kept the Trapper in his truck “for bears”. Since the centerfire 77s use a sized up 10/22 magazine it should be possible to make a scaled up BX-25 style box magazine but I doubt there’s enough demand to justify the tooling costBiggest takeaway – for me since I live in a state where you can use pistol caliber cartridges or straight walled rifle cartridges to hunt deer and I don’t hand load – is a .357 carbine would be a much more flexible rifle to own than a .30-30. Both of the Hornady LeverEvolution rounds made it to about 22 inches. The best under an inch. 1500 fps, 755 ft pounds out of a four inch barrel. A long gun is not the detriment that most people think it is. For me the .357 lever gun would just be a cool range toy. But, I have no proof and would like to see if the science bears me out.I have a break-action rifle chambered in .44 Magnum. The .357’s handgun ballistics are impressive indeed, but how much The .30-30 was once the standard North American big-game hunting cartridge. If you don’t own one, you should.”The 125 grain projectile has slightly more energy than 5.56 NATO fired from an M4’s 14.5″ barrel. Taken down it can fit into a case only a little longer than the barrel. Ya I know it doesn’t seem normal. For matters of discussion he is looking at 110 Grain SP in the Carbine and a good 158 Grain PB gas checked SWC (HP as an option). Expansion was right around .6 inches. This would place it in the middle of the pack for.30-30 ballistics, at least within 100 yards, at a cost about equal to premium.30-30 ammo.
But would still be a fairly light carbine.I know, and I’m not holding my breath. When and if I get some of these to test I’ll post the results, but for big game I’d still rather have a .30-30. Taken many deer with it.
Expansion was right around.6 inches. I’d still likely prefer a Saiga, SKS, Mini-14, or Garand, but a higher capacity lever action also makes sense.Ruger gp 100 7. Rev, unlike the .30 carbine, most .357 Magnum ammo is NOT round nose full metal jacket.
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